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They would take that as a compliment that their driver looks the same as it always has, but gets gains out of new techology.

Sure they do…

@@booger65man literally says it in the video

And every year or every other year in Titleist’s case, they convince a few hundred suckers that the latest and greatest now $900 driver is somehow going to add 20 yards to their drives lol.

Difference in weight how so?

That's part of getting fit and getting into a better driver, one that helps you find the middle more, but also plenty of the shots with the GT were mishit (I made sure to say it) and the ball speed on mishit shots was still 3 mph faster on average and spin was down a couple hundred rpms on those mishits from the other driver.

I play a ltdx ls with a Venus white 60 s. The ball I was playing was launching lower than I liked. Switched to a higher launching ball and now it’s a monster. My swing speed is 105mph. Carry is between 275 and 280 now

@@ryanwalters694 It's a great driver and I think Cobra is an underrated club company. But with how my swing has changed over the past few years, I think it's no longer what I need.

We are expected to get our GT Fitting line on the 23rd so you should have it!

Without responding to all of this, I'll just say, he went up in loft 1.75 degrees and lowered spin. So you are not correct.

​@@scotthogangolf Not according to the video, but lets even say that's true for arguments sake, you were hitting down on your cobra and up on the Titleist, a difference of just under 2 degrees. Also, you had an average 6° open face with your cobra, and a basically square face with the Titleist. Square face and more up will both equate to more club speed and less spin, which obviously result in more distance. Let's quit pretending new drivers are any faster. The answer is always in the numbers, whether that be the club spec numbers or swing numbers.

The main contribution a shaft makes to a golf club is weight... People overhype shafts. The head is infinitely more important than the shaft. When people find a shaft that they swing well, it's 90% the weight that they are timing properly.

The head gets you into the right neighborhood. When I hit the different heads, one of them was just a no-go for me personally (still a great club) but based on what I like to see and need it wasn't hitting those windows so I only hit it a few times. But once there, the shaft is going to make little tweaks to really dial in the feel and the numbers needed for the golf club. Part of it can be weight, but a lot of times it's going to be if I have a certain torque it's easier to turn it over or keep the face open, or there are certain shafts with the same weight/flex but completely different bend profiles that feel and produce different results. That was my main goal of this video to show that it is definitely worth going to get fit and get the opportunity to try some different options that are out there.

GT3 with graphite deign vf7 shaft

This was free. For us at Mistwood where we fit all brands we charge $125 (very worth it in my opinion) but you can also look for events from Titleist where it's usually less and you can fit.

106-108 in this video

@@scotthogangolf 162 ball speed is very impressive at 106. I guess I need to get a lot more efficient

I will talk more about that in a future video, so stay tuned!

I did my irons about 6 weeks ago, ended up in T150's, similar reasons, they ball just consistently came out the same, but also my mishits were seeing very similar distances as well which was awesome.

I talked with Titleist before hand to get permission to film and we had a discussion about what is allowed and what isn't. There is plenty that I have that I'm not allowed to show. I've seen others with videos or content showing the exact same thing as I've done here.

I didn’t, just from the initial shots it was pretty clear it wasn’t going to be for me. ball came off too low and too right for me

Maybe that's true, that's why people should go get fit and get correctly fit and see what works for them. But there is a lot of room in getting fit for a proper shaft still, and then dialing in all of the weight settings etc...

40? More like 23. Also things change.

They didn't say, in the TSR lineup I believe that came later

What now?

Haha it's mine now too

Thank you! It's definitely worth it. If you're in Chicago come see us at Mistwood!

I just did my first fitting after 20 years. It’s amazing. Went with TSR3 with Ventus blue velocore+ and a +4 grip to help with heavy draw. I’ve been nailing fairways.

@@zacharywilliams3136 That's a good setup to help with that ball flight! Glad to hear the fitting helped out!

Same thing scratch and just started getting fit the Titleist lineup is solid

100% fitting is important, I see it every day with our awesome fitters at Mistwood, they get people some great results. I don't think it made the cut, but at the start of hitting the GT3, it felt different and I almost was just trying to get it out of my hands. I think I had the thought going in that I was going to be in GT2, but then after hitting it a few times then going back and forth, I really started to like the weight on the bottom. While I wait for mine to come, I've been back on my Cobra and it's been bugging me not having the extra weight now lol.

The TSR2 is a really good driver, they feel and look very similar, and I think I cut it out, but we did talk about how TItleist's goal is for their drivers to look and feel the same from year to year, then people just enjoy the benefits of the new technology. I thought that was true, but my biggest thing was when I had mishits (and there was a lot) I just didn't see the ball speed drop or spin increase (misses were bottom heel usually) like I expected.

Oak brook golf club!

What do you mean lawsuit?

@@scotthogangolf titleist has an embargo (can’t release footage) until just before release date in Aug. everyone that has had a GT video has gotten taken down. Be careful

@@MABirkeland Interesting, they invited me and asked me to film the video, so I will have to see.

@@MABirkeland I will say, there is stuff I was not allowed to show in the video so maybe those people had that.

Not allowed to show numbers. Best take it down and be safe. Put it back up August 1st. Why do you think you're one of the only reviews online right now?

I tried to voice it but a lot of these shots were not great strikes. But also just looking at the end stats too, that would include all the shots no matter how it was hit. That was what I was most excited, I saw some crazy gains on shots that were not struck that well in my opinion.

@@scotthogangolf no problem! Congrats with the improvement!

@@albertroyen7799 I do think you're right and I'd love to have a video one day with a more "average" player and see what we can do with equipment to help them out.

It was impressive to see. I think in general, the driver tech has changed the last year or two and the ball speeds you get on less than perfect hits is crazy good.

Embargo?

Thank you! I honestly wasn't expecting it, I typically would say driving is a strength of mine, but I'll take anything I can get!

Glad it was helpful! I would definitely recommend a fitting, it's crazy how many shaft options are out there and there are lots of great stock and after market options as well!

@@scotthogangolf did you also try their fairway woods and/or hybrids?

@@pgjc756 I did try the fairway woods, Ill do a separate video on those, I saw some gains but I also hit for over 2 hours and it was over 100 heat index on the day, so I would like to hit them again. Same idea though, they look and feel very similar but i noticed mis hits didn't have a huge drop off, I also was able to get the ball a little higher than my current 3w.

There is a small room to move it, but i just tell people try to get it in the same spot as a best practice

lol it's better than most

I'll have to try that, my ankle mobility isn't great so that should help

I mean all I do is talk about a certain number that a launch monitor gives and then hit shots using a launch monitor to explain how to affect that number with the launch monitor on the screen.

@@scotthogangolf Thanks for your quick reply. Unfortunately I dont think the MLM2pro has that number.

Id agree but you can still work and understand concepts to apply when you are out on the course.

Oak Brook Golf Club, we were on the north range!

I think the unit has evolved a bunch from it's original intention of just being something that people would use to gather numbers and data at home.

They have changed their company mindset to start promoting clubs more. And performance wise they are getting there.

Titleist let the performance do the talking. Most drivers on the PGA tour and DP World tour week in week out and it's been like that for a while. They've got Cam Smith, Cam Young, Aberg, Spieth, Thomas, Homa on their roster. If you want drivers in weird and wonderful colours or drivers that have their faces pop off, then go with Cally or Taylormade 😂😂

@@GRIFF22 I agree of late, they have really made a push to make their equipment match up with the performance of the golf ball. I also think they realize they need a little different marketing plan and we are seeing that in some of the content they are doing!

Nicklaus definitey had a lot to copy in it.

So you have the same room I have and I don't have issues with Mevo+. Numbers match exactly to TM4. I also swing at about 108-112 (when I'm feeling good). At my speed if I'm hitting it well, I can get over 160 ball speed, but it's not always. Although new driver incoming might change that!

Also I'd say, at this point, I find it very tough to change people's minds, if you aren't finding the numbers to be good, I would try a different unit. I'm lucky to have access to TM4, two GC3's, Top Tracer and Flightscope Mevo+, and if I had UNLIMITED MONEY in the world, I would still get Mevo+ based on all my side by side testing. But that is just my opinion.

@@scotthogangolf Thanks for the feed back.... You think lighting could be effecting the readings at all?

@@ramsinessapour8906 maybe, or other interference is possible

@@ramsinessapour8906 certianly possible, but that's usually just for something like face-impact readings.

I'll see if I can do another one

Not a bad list for sure. I do like homa as well, I think when you play a specific ball flight all the time, it makes it easier to fix and also maintain.

Well you can certainly try another, hard to say that there is an issue with Doppler based radars since they are overwhelming what is owned by PGA and LPGA players.

@@mksmith713hmm, if you provide numbers like swing speed ball speed and what club you are hitting, I could calculate how far it should go and see if that compares.

@@scotthogangolf I’ll get numbers for you and post first chance I get.

I guess I’ll purchase a large turf carpet to cover the entire patio. I’ve read some post on forums that say the entire floor has to be the exact same color, the net hitting area has to be one color solid, and I’ve also been told that the area behind me will have to be all one color other than white for the SkyTrak. I haven’t done any of that because I’m hitting balls outdoors and that’s a lot of work to go through to hit balls for about an hour just to pack it up and put it all away again. I could see if you had an indoor Sim but that’s not an option for me.

Glad it did let me know if I can help out more!

the liveview? all the time, on my own game so I can see my swing but also with students so they can rehearse their feels

I'm out of Mistwood in Romeoville, IL!

@@scotthogangolfyou ever in NJ?

Love the setup! I'm excited, I'm getting to get fit for the GT driver and fairway this week! I'll be sharing some info about it after I'm done!

You are correct, I was illustrating that club path is a sum of different numbers. In practicality low point has a huge impact on club path and being able to hit functional shots (we are about the practicality and applying these theories on this channel) but by the letter of the law you are correct.